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need a source for rebuilt front calipers

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:59 am
by pappentl
Autozone doesn't carry them any more, and an online search yielded nothing, anyone have a source for rebuilt front calipers short of the $350 new ones? TIA.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:56 am
by Mike W.
Both Rockauto and Amazon show a variety of choices. The standard warning applies with both of them, make sure you are getting what you think you are getting, their listings aren't always that accurate or clear. Also beware shipping with Rockauto, they sometimes ship from out of the country and it can be as much as the part. Othertimes not, just be careful.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:12 pm
by pappentl
When I tried to order from Rockauto as soon as I put a caliper in the basket they took it out and said the part was no longer available. Amazon gives a 1-2 month delivery time. Looks like another e12 part is going to be hard to get. Cardone will at least rebuild a caliper if you sent it to them through Autozone. Wish I'd not thrown that stack of calipers away last year...

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:13 pm
by Mike W.
Interesting, I hadn't seen that before. There are a couple that don't do that, but I'm not sure it's a full front set. How bad are yours? Rebuildable? Buy used and rebuild? Car part.com shows a bunch.

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:27 am
by JodyStevens
I just rebuilt mine with parts from BMW. I also busted a piston on removal so I ordered a set from eBay for like $150 and used the best parts of both.

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:37 am
by MikeB7
There must still be a problem with lack of cores in the system.

Have you searched ebay, including europe (search worldwide)?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:05 am
by wkohler
Turner Motorsport uses Centric in California. They likely don't have any available, though they do list them on rockauto, but if you go through Turner, you send yours to Centric, they rebuild and send them back. For my M535i, I think I'm sending mine to a place in Utah called PMB Performance. He quoted me $300/pair without seeing them, but they split the calipers, re-plate everything in yellow zinc, replace the seals, etc. My brakes worked fine, but everything is supposed to be new I guess when it goes back together, so...

That said, it's pretty easy to do this stuff yourself with just a normal rebuild. Seal kits are still available and easy to get and with compressed air, piston removal is pretty easy.

How to do Caliper Rebuilds

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:21 pm
by RonDwyer
Ahh yes, I've rebuilt a few dozen over the years. Prepare to get very dirty! I usually crack the nuts holding the halves together before loosening any bolts. Just break them loose and keep them snug, you don't want to break the seal and allow air in yet.

Before you start, remove the rotor on one side and pump the brake pedal to identify the stuck piston(s). If all 4 of them move, put the rotor back on and the caliper with a bolt to hold it in place. Then do the other side.

If there is a stuck piston, put in a suitable piece of metal between the free ones to simulate the rotor and work on the other 2. Once they are all free you will eventually be able to remove them from the halves in a future step.

If you pop a piston out, then you have air in the system and it makes the other side difficult to loosen up on the car. With all pistons in both calipers free, take them all off, clean them a bit, and then split them.

I hold the halves in a vise and use channel-lock or vice-grip pliers to work the pistons out. They are cast I believe, so use only enough clamp force to hold the upper ring and NEVER the part that contacts the bore. Rock them back & forth while working them up and out. There is likely a bit of corrosion on them. If they are pitted, you have to consider new ones.

Before even starting, look up KANO labs in Nashville and order a can of Kroil, not the stuff with silicone. Kroil makes even the toughest ones loose eventually. Kroil makes any penetrating oil look like a poor substitute. I think it has a mild acid in it because rust has met its match with this stuff. Wear gloves, this stuff also tears up my skin.

Make sure you know which half goes with which one so when you go to bleed them you have the bleed screws facing UP where the air collects. Don't ask me how I know this. Take your time, take pictures before starting, look at the orientation of the pistons before starting. They can be rotated in the bore and do have a proper orientation.

The manuals say never split them, actually I have never had any issues, just make sure you don't lose the seal rings, they are square surface "O" rings. I went the route of re-plating once, but if all you are doing is driving the car, do the split, clean them thoroughly, and use a brake hone to smooth the bores. Be sure to put them back together with the proper lubricant and align the pistons. Crocus cloth is good for polishing the pistons. I have a lathe so I can chuck up the seal end and spin them. This is very dangerous, you can rip your fingers off if you are not careful. Use a tool to hold a strip of crocus cloth. (or the finest wet/dry sandpaper you can find)

And that, is how you put a bit of life back into some old calipers!

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:21 pm
by Pierre
I got a set from O'Reilly recently. Special order but they had them in 3 days. They do show out of stock online.

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:06 am
by PatinaBeforePolish
This seller on eBay regularly lists hard to find NOS items. He currently shows a set of new front calipers for $699!!

I bought a set of NOS Stahl headers from him recently and was very pleased with the transaction.

greenfieldimported

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:24 pm
by RonDwyer
Call Marshall at 002 Salvage in Hayward. I'm sure he has resources if he doesn't have a good used set on the shelf at least he has cores. 510-782-2002 X-1

This company rebuilds them and lists stock. There's vented and non-vented. http://www.nugeon.com/contact.html

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:30 pm
by pappentl
Ordered a set from Summit Racing and although they didn't appear to be in stock Centric dropped shipped a set and I had them in less than a week. Guess I need to be more diligent in my searches.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:11 pm
by neetyrom
rebuilding is not hard at all to do it is just time consuming, You're alternate option is buying them from ORIELY's. They have rebuilt calipers short for $160 for the front and a little more for the rear calipers. definitely worth a shot.
regards

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:28 pm
by neetyrom
FYI, if you decided to rebuild your calipers the best option is to used pressurized air IMO. I had a real hassle using needle nosed vise grips. What i did was use duct tape to tape around the caliper and one piston to the point where it will come out as far as possible without interfering with the opposing piston or coming out of the caliper all together. From there i blew pressurized air (w/ PB blaster into the chambers drain plug) until the opposing piston came out all the way, whilst, simultaneously the piston wrapped with duct tape will increase in displacement. Therefore you will have an easier time taking it out with the visegrips, due to the maximum amount the piston could come out without the short of air pressure. This was the hardest part IMO; replace to stainless steel brake lines and my car's brake performance was good as new, and well worth the price ($80) for all the calipers in the rebuild kit and 120$ for the stainless steel braided brake lines. Which the total cost roughly cost the same for 1 caliper.

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:40 pm
by CBradio
Had the same issue...

I just kept checking rockauto and then suddenly they had some available from centric....

Id just keep checking!