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'80 No Spark Problem

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:40 pm
by socalfiver
I've narrowed my no-start problem to No Spark.

I'm getting voltage to the + side of the coil with the key on. The coil checks out good when I run it in my other car.

I was leaning toward the Pulse Transmitter in the distributor. I bought a distributor from an '81 at the salvage yard, swapped it in and still no spark. Is there a tried and true method for testing it? What about the pickup wires to it? Could the pickup wire be broken internally? Where to test for continuity?

Is there a method for testing the Bosch ignition unit on the inner right fender near the right headlight?

Can anyone think of anything else I should check?

All help and advice is greatly appreciated.

Re: '80 No Spark Problem

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:17 am
by Peter Florance
socalfiver wrote:I've narrowed my no-start problem to No Spark.

I'm getting voltage to the + side of the coil with the key on. The coil checks out good when I run it in my other car.

I was leaning toward the Pulse Transmitter in the distributor. I bought a distributor from an '81 at the salvage yard, swapped it in and still no spark. Is there a tried and true method for testing it? What about the pickup wires to it? Could the pickup wire be broken internally? Where to test for continuity?

Is there a method for testing the Bosch ignition unit on the inner right fender near the right headlight?

Can anyone think of anything else I should check?

All help and advice is greatly appreciated.
The ICM (ignition control module) is mostly likely the problem. I've opened them and repaired bad solder joints.

Whack it moderately with rubber mallet while cranking and see if it catches at all.

Of course you could buy a used on from another SoCal e12 owner pretty cheap as well.



Me, I'm on the humid coast, so not as much help.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:31 pm
by socalfiver
Thanks for the advice, Peter. I pulled off the ICM this morning and carefully desoldered/disassembled it. It smelled like burnt electronics. Sure enough, along the top edge of the backside of the circuit board was not a broken solder joint, but a burn in the circuit board that ran through one of the paths. I lumped the break with a small piece of wire.

The car now sputters (hey, waaay better than nothing!!), but will not start and run. When I verify spark with the timing light, it is not consistent. it is definitely sparking now, but not as often as it should be.

It looks like my ignition wires have been replaced with suppression wires. Would that, combined with resistor caps and resistor plugs, be enough to cause the inconsistent sparking?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:55 pm
by socalfiver
IT'S FIXED!!!!


The Salvage Yard gods are smiling on me. Found a distributor yesterday. Went to a different salvage yard today, there was a beautiful 633 that had an ICU and a near-new, amazing set of plug wires. The wires were so nice, it made me realize how cheap the ones on my car were. Set of wires and ICU cost me $20. What a deal!

Thanks to all for helping me get the problem tracked down and fixed.

it's stressful to buy a non-running car, but I'm happy to report that the transmission, brakes and steering all work!! It's driveable!

There was some white smoke on startup, but it dissipated quickly. I'll run a few tanks of gas through before I attempt to get it smogged.