The Red Barons' smog complete and ready for next project.EGR

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:15 pm

Yes, one off a 88 535is will work, it is a M30 engine and all. But you will need to work around interference with the idler and fab some hangers for it. The intermediate ones are easy, the rear one somewhat harder, but doable. You will need everything from the manifolds to the tips of the tailpipe. Also I suggest 6 point sockets for the exhaust, I've rounded off a few nuts over the years with 12 point tools.

pappentl · Post by **pappentl** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:44 am

I concur, The only issues are the hangers and indenting the downpipe around the idler arm. As a side benefit you get a better flowing exhaust.

...tom

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#AOLMsgPart_1_d0501a67-db23-4e54-99be-a601596a4f4a td{color: black;} Yes, one off a 88 535is will work, it is a M30 engine and all. But you will need to work around interference with the idler and fab some hangers for it. The intermediate ones are easy, the rear one somewhat harder, but doable. You will need everything from the manifolds to the tips of the tailpipe. Also I suggest 6 point sockets for the exhaust, I've rounded off a few nuts over the years with 12 point tools.

Mike W.

1980 528i, 3.5 euro, 5 speed conversion
1981 528i, 3.6, Recaros and more. Project
1998 328is, quick and efficient, but not satisfying
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shebuilt · Post by **shebuilt** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:52 am

Thank you both again.

Guys, it just dawned on me while I was yanking a exhaust manifold and y pipes off an e23 why can't I just use the M30 exhaust manifold and attach to my existing pipes?

Will that work?

Not concerned with smog right now as I have two years. Main thing is to relieve this heat and get those TR's OFF!

GripGreg · Post by **GripGreg** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:01 pm

Nikki
There might be an issue concerning the bolt holes lining up? Maybe?

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:37 pm

shebuilt wrote:Thank you both again.

Guys, it just dawned on me while I was yanking a exhaust manifold and y pipes off an e23 why can't I just use the M30 exhaust manifold and attach to my existing pipes?

Will that work?

No.

Thermos are a different length and while the bolt pattern is the same it's rotated some and set at a different angle. You could do it if you cut the downpipes, bolted the flanges to the 535 manifolds and welded in an extension.

shebuilt · Post by **shebuilt** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:09 pm

Guys...

I tackled the job today. It began with removing the exhaust manifold down from the 535is at 9am....that took me maybe 45 minutes?!

That ridiculous thermal reactor job!!! The opposite of PRICELESS!

They are finally off and the e28 manifolds up. I was the last to close the shop up and all the guys left little ole me and the random cats wandering the yard. I am not strong enough to lift the exhaust by myself so it is sitting in place.

Question guys to you whom have traveled this crazy journey prior is:

the pipes go through to opening straight up?
at this point then I modify to allow for the idler?

Looked as if it was going to be trouble going back up...

I think recalls should be the life of the cars!

Appreciate all the help.

Good thing is that this was the only serious issue I was having. After this it should be all easy cruising.

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:37 pm

Get ready for double fun. Yes, it will go more or less straight up and in, but in my experience it's much to crowded in there to swing a hammer or anything, so you have to get it in position, mark it, then pull it back out and modify it, then do the full install. All with crap falling in your eyes and working on your back.

You're makin' great progress Nikki, keep it up!

Jeff Dennis · Post by **Jeff Dennis** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:14 pm

Wow good work.... keep going.

GripGreg · Post by **GripGreg** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:34 pm

Does anyone here know the easy way to remove the auxiliary fan in front of the radiator?
Thanx,,,,Greg

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:04 pm

GripGreg wrote:Does anyone here know the easy way to remove the auxiliary fan in front of the radiator?
Thanx,,,,Greg

And this has what to do with Nikki's exhaust???

I could remove your post, but I can't or don't know how to move it. Anyway, I don't think there is an easy way. 528i will be harder though, it's much bigger. Remove radiator, unbolt A/C condenser, unbolt fan and work it out. You won't be enjoying yourself.

GripGreg · Post by **GripGreg** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:31 pm

Only 'cause she asked me & I don't know an easy way. I know the hard way, but, we're always lookin' for a trick, right?
Thanx for responding,,,,Greg

shebuilt · Post by **shebuilt** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:37 pm

Thanks again guys.

Here is the update. I went to awesome muffler shop today and they welded it up with new hangers and bent the pipe for me. Sounds like I have power under there! LOL. I believe I did a nice job and the shop completed him right off.

Now I am still chasing my overheating issue. Cooler of course and feels like I do after I push away from the sorbet shops. So much lighter!

I have been told recently by a new repair shop that the radiator was indeed still the problem. I have been cheated by the prior mechanic and a law suit is on the way. Meantime, I am having it removed and repaired correctly.

Will status in a bit...

GripGreg · Post by **GripGreg** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:47 pm

Nikki
Bob told me the whole story. You might only need to have it
'rodded out'. The radiator shop pulls it & slides a slim bar/rod all the way through from, I think, both angles to clear everything out.
The shop right across the street from Werkstat did mine a few years ago.
I'll go check the price, but, I know they're cheap.

Jeff Dennis · Post by **Jeff Dennis** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:22 pm

Nikki,

Just an FYI there is an E28 upgrade should be in the FAQ this should be an easy upgrade since you have so many pick and pulls in your area.